Henric Jöranssen Rehn

[Ron1]

I've been able to follow my grandfather's line back to Henric Rehn 18 Apr 1745 in Säkylä died 22 Apr 1806 in Iso Säkylä

I lose track of him and am wondering if he might be a German soldier with the name like Rehn. Is there anyone that has a way to track him back one more generation to see where he came from? The older the Communion books get the less I can understand them. Henric also shows up in Geni World but no reference to his parents.

[Ron1]

I should have included this with the first one it's where he lived in Kirri Dragon

https://www.myheritage.com/research/rec ... tion-books

[JaskaS]

He was recruited to Pori region infantry Regiment Eura Company rote 66 on 21 Aug 1777.
According to recruitment roll he was born in Säkylä and was 32 years old and unmarried at the time. He had been reserve soldier earlier.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 20&pnum=23
Rehn (also spelled Reen) was a typical soldier name given him in the army. He may be found by his patronymic Jöransson before that. First name Henric may have been spelled Hinrich as well.

Jaska

[u18188]

SSHY/ FFHA Parishes; Church records;
Säkylä 1799-1810;
- p. 155 (1799-1804); https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 71&pnum=81 .
- p. 355 (1805-1810); https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 1&pnum=181 .

SSHY/ FFHA Regiments; Military records;
Porin jalkaväkirykmentti (= Björneborgs läns infanteri); Pääkatselmusluettelot (= Generalmönsterrullor/ GMR);

Eura Compagnie; Stor-Säkylä (Iso Säkylä) No 66;
- Pääkatselmusluettelo 1775-1782 / GMR 1782, [895.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 7&pnum=895 .
- Pääkatselmusluettelo 1785 / GMR 1785, [219.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 1&pnum=219 .
- Pääkatselmusluettelo 1788-1795 /
- / GMR 1789, [338.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 8&pnum=338 .
- / GMR 1795, [794.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 8&pnum=794 .
- Pääkatselmusluettelo 1800 / GMR 1800, [227.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 9&pnum=227 .

In these records is only mentioned that Hendrich Jöransson Rehn was born in the province of Björneborg/Pori (many parishes to check?).
Birgit S.

[JaskaS]

Farm hand Henric Jöransson with matching birthday:
1772-1774: https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 68&pnum=73
In previous communion book there's Henric Jöransson in the same farm, but with birthday 7 Jan 1745.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 68&pnum=17
That will match taylor Jöran andersson's son. He doesn't appear there later.
Though copying errors did happen, there's no visible explanation for that kind of error

Jaska

[Ron1]

I had come across the record for Henric Jöranssen that you reference

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 68&pnum=73

But I don't understand why the parents aren't listed with the children. They don't appear to belong to the family above them -- perhaps they were orphans? The line thru the name I assume means they moved away. Could they all have been adopted by the other family?

All the military records are great to find, didn't even know these existed. That at least confirms he was not a German import for the military.

[u18188]

Hi! Here is one more Military record. Sometimes it pays off to be systematical and check everything. Something can turn up, unfortunately not so much this time. The record shows that Hindric Jöransson was accepted in the "Reserv" Sept. 18th, 1773 at (Säkylä) Pyhäjoki, No 63. This place is mentioned in his first Marriage record Febr. 4th, 1781.

SSHY / FFHA Regiments; Military records;
Porin läänin jalkaväkirykmentti; Luetteloita 1776 ( = "Lists");

Vargeringsmanskap ( = "Reservetroups");
Eura Compagnie;
- No 63 Pyhäjoki and No 64 LillSäkylä, [140.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 5&pnum=140 .
- No 65 LillSäkylä and No 66 StorSäkylä, [141.jpg]; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 5&pnum=141 .

SSHY/ FFHA Säkylä Marriage records 1778-1789; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 136&pnum=5 .

Have you checked all the birthrecords of his children? Sometimes relatives or childhoodfriends of the parents are wittnesses or Godparents to the child. Remember to check from which parish or farm they are. Maybe there are some clues there?

I had come across the record for Henric Jöranssen ...
But I don't understand why the parents aren't listed with the children. They don't appear to belong to the family above them -- ...

The persons you are referring to (under the family on lines "a" - "h") on lines "l" - "p" are farmhands (dr. = dräng) and maids (pa = piga) on this "farm". At the age of 15 you were on your own, sometimes younger!

Birgit S.

[Ron1]

Interesting -- the birth dates are listed in such perfect chronological order I thought it was a family grouping of some sort. Usually when I see the maids and farmhands the dates are all random. Yes, my great-great grandmother was on her own at age 11 when her mother died -- her father died a few years earlier. Quite a shock to see an 11 year old as a service person, and at 15 a maid on a farm -- and this with other aunts and uncles of hers nearby.

I still have to research how she ended up marrying a man 39 years older than she was, but that's another project.

I'll look for the birth records, I've found two of them, there should be more even for the children that died as infants. His first wife died young and I'm descended from his second wife so haven't really researched the first group of children.

[Ron1]

Actually now that I look at the list of maids/farmhands the second from the bottom is the woman he marries, Elin Henricsdotter 25 June 1757 who dies 26 May 1790 at the age of 32. So they met on the Ehla farm as workers.

[Ron1]

I have found 4 out of the 5 children's records but not having any success to Henric's family. The Sparf family is noted in the 1883 baptism, but I can't read Swedish to find out if this is any help. Searching Hiski doesn't turn up any Henric Jöransson born in Säkylä in 1745. Here are the baptism records if anyone can find anything in them to identify Henric family.

Henric Rehn/Snabb Nov 29 1781 birth record
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 30&pnum=18

Helena Rehn Dec 12 1783 birth (dies Nov 11 1788)
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 30&pnum=25

Thomas Rehn June 12 1785 birth (dies 1785?)
No record of Christening

Elizabeth Henricsdotter July 16 1787 birth (dies Jan 18 1788)
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 30&pnum=39

Moses Henricsson birth record (second wife Maria) Oct 17 1793
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 30&pnum=53

[JaskaS]

HisKi does have this one born 7 Jan 1745: https://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski?fi+t7779153
He is at Ehla farm in communion book 1766-1771:
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 68&pnum=17
In an earlier message I wondered, if he could be the same as yours b. 18 Apr 1745 in CB 1772-1777:
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 68&pnum=73

Jaska

[Ron1]

Yes, that looks like the most promising lead so far. I'm not sure why the birth date gets scrambled.
My Henric does meet his first wife at the Ehla farm, but by then his birth date has changed.

I don't understand why someone would change their birth date, haven't come across this before. The dates are pretty clearly written in the Books but the names do seem to coincide. It would explain why I can't find any record of Henric under the Apr 18 1745 date.
Has anyone seem something like this before? Is it suspicious that he joins the military at the age of 32? Seems odd to me as well.

[u18188]

The changing of birth date is actually a quite common error. The priests are after all only human.
Thomas Henricsson Rehn was born Dec 6th 1785 (died Aug 17th 1786?) :
SSHY / FFHA Säkylä Births, Marriages and Deaths 1778-1830; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 79&pnum=41 .

In the birth record for the son Henricus Nov 29th 1781, there is one maid, piga Maria Jöransdr Saunala, listed as a wittness. She is found on farm Saunala at page 41 on line "z"; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 69&pnum=24 . Unfortunately her date of birth is difficult to read, but I think one should investigate if she could be Henric Jöransson Rehn's sister.

As it happens the parents of Henric, born Jan 7th 1745, also had a daughter Maria born in 1754.
But the family of the tailor Jöran Andersson should be located and investigated to confirm the relationship, or not.

Further more the age of a soldier was sometimes fabricated. If a boy was too young, they just marked the year of birth a couple of years earlier.
In this case Henric Jöransson Rehn was, according to the records, 28 years old as he was accepted as "reserv" in 1773
(https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 5&pnum=140), and described as a quick, clever and good-tempered man (rask, duktig och beskedlig karl).

Birgit S.

[JaskaS]

As the recruitment roll states he had been a reserve man before becoming a regular soldier 21 Aug 1777.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 20&pnum=23
I found a reserve soldier listing, which says that Hindrich Jöransson became reserve man for rote 63 on 18 Sep 1773.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/ ... 9&pnum=403
(same information on Birgit's link above)

Jaska

[Ron1]

Yes, I understand about the clerical errors. My great grandmother was 11 years younger than her husband and the priests almost always recorded this as just one year, shifting the birth year. But I could always find a later record that would correct it to the proper date.

It's almost as if up to a certain point Henric used one birthdate, and then just decided to start using a different one, as the records after that time are very easy to follow. But I would have thought it would have been easier to change one's name, as names were changed so easily in those days.

I think I'll just put this one aside for now, and move on to my great great grandmother. At least I know that I didn't miss an obvious connection between Henric and his parents.