sorting out family relationships

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ljsmedman
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sorting out family relationships

Viesti Kirjoittaja ljsmedman » 30.07.2016 01:56

I'd also like any tips for how to establish the various family relationships from a page like this:
http://en.digihakemisto.appspot.com/edi ... ay2=133310

[Kommunionbok, 1777-1783; Korsholms; Voitby (Waitby); farm: Braxenholm/Snull].

I recognize some of the names but can't figure out the relationships (husbands, wives, children). Also, the scan is rather dark and there's a lot of overwriting on this page.
Thanks!

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jani
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Liittynyt: 09.08.2006 00:16
Paikkakunta: San Jose

Re: sorting out family relationships

Viesti Kirjoittaja jani » 30.07.2016 09:31

It helps if you click the link on the image number. Once the page opens on the digi.narc-page, you can zoom in.

Mainly they list heads of houses followed by their wives (the women with h, hustru in front of them).

Matts Johansson with an S. is a son (son). Brita Jacobsdotter with an S. is a sister (syster). The qp (qvinnsperson) in front of Greta Olofsdotter most likely means she's had illegitimate children (or she at least got caught sleeping with someone). Dreng in front of Isac Andersson means he's a hired hand, Pig in front of Maja Lisa Isaksdotter means she's a maid. M in front of Israel Jacobsson means måg, son-in-law. St.dr in front of Maria means styvdotter, stepdaughter. The I means inhyses, lodger.
----- Jani Koski -----

ljsmedman
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Liittynyt: 05.04.2016 01:41

Re: sorting out family relationships

Viesti Kirjoittaja ljsmedman » 30.07.2016 18:42

Jani, Thank you so much. Yes, it was easier to read the other link in the digi.narc archive.
Here's what I could decipher so far. I made spaces when it seemed obvious that a grouping was probably husband, wife, child. But there are still abbreviations and words I can't make out. I also have these questions:
1. What does the first line mean? A "Mattson" is listed; is this the main head of Braxenholm farm?
2. How much can you interpret from the patronymics? For instance, would it be safe to assume that Johan Olafson and [qp] Greta Olafsdtr were siblings? Or Isaac and Israel Anderson?
3. Is it possible to tell the parents of [StD]Maria (Snull) from this record?
4. If a family had servants, does this mean they had a good economic or social status?
5. I was curious about the "qp" designation. I have come across several women in my family tree who appeared to have children before they married; sometimes the children are listed as "Henry AnnaLisason." What was the view on illegitimate children in the 18th and 19th centuries? Would these children be baptized? Would the women be stigmatized?

Braxenholm
???: Matts: Laihela[?]
Sister Brita Jacobsdtr

Carl[?] Mattson
Johan Olofson
h Anna Marcusdtr
Son Matts Johanson

? Caren Israelsdtr
Simon Michaelson
QP Greta Olofsdtr
Dreng Isaac Anderson

?? Jacob Jacobson
h Anna Israelsdtr
D Beata Jacobsdtr
Pig Maja Lisa Isaksdtr
? Johan Mattson
? Caisa Jacobsdtr

Snull
Johan Jacobson
Matts Johan
H Brita Jacobsdtr

Mag Israel Jacobson
H Beata Mattsdtr

?? Israel Andersson
StD Maria [married Groop Weikars]
?? Brita Krook
?? Brita Stina [Qvevlax]

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jani
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Liittynyt: 09.08.2006 00:16
Paikkakunta: San Jose

Re: sorting out family relationships

Viesti Kirjoittaja jani » 30.07.2016 23:31

I'll get back to you on the questions, but here's my attempt:

Braxenholm
dreng Israel Mattson Laihela
(probably) dreng hustru Brita Jacobsdtr (this couple married in Mustasaari on 20 NOV 1782)

Carl Mattsson
Johan Olofsson
hustru Anna Marcusdotter
son Matts Johanson
(possibly son hustru, then enka, widow) Caren Isaacsdotter (looks like someone wrote Larsdotter on top, might be wrong)
Simon Michelsson
qp Greta Olofsdotter
dreng Isaac Andersson

(likely) HB, husbonde Jacob Jacobsson
hustru Anna Israelsdotter
syster Beata Jacobsdotter
pig Maja Lisa Isaksdotter
syster Caisa Jacobsdotter

Johan Mattsson
hustru Caisa Jacobsdotter
possibly son Eric Johansson?
??? qp? Anna ???
enka Anna Olofsdotter

Snull
Johan Jacobson
Matts Johansson
hustru Brita Jacobsdtr
måg Israel Jacobson
hustru Beata Mattsdtr
drengen Israel Andersson
(can't make out name, possibly Christina?)
styvdotter Maria [married Groop Weikars]
inhyses Brita Krook
inhyses Brita Stina Lybeck
----- Jani Koski -----

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