Daniel HENRICKSON - advice please

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Hello Jani...

Thanks very much for such a prompt reply

May I please clarify something, namely does your first post relate to Kymi. You mentioned Anjala in your second post but nothing specific in your first post.

Assuming it does relate to Kymi, and as the Communion Books covering 1870 to 1890 (I Aa:12-14) are not mentioned and I can't find them online, does it mean they've not survived. Or have I not looked hard enough.

Thanks again
Beg

[timotk]

Survived: maybe yes, maybe not. Books may exist but have not been filmed, and are thus not listed. Or perhaps the parish has films for own use but does not make them available. National archives can publish only those films that are made available by the parish.

(Added at 11 o'clock local time)
Kymi parish still exists within "Kotka-Kymin seurakuntayhtymä" (something like Union of Kotka and Kymi parishes) and can be contacted for requests.

kotka-kymin.seurakuntayhtyma@evl.fi

Of course, I can not promise anything on their behalf. They should know, whether the books exist, and if yes, you can be hopeful that the books will be filmed one day and released for public. Via a request regarding another parish, I have learned that the remaining original books that are in the hands of National Archives, will be filmed if not filmed already.

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Hello again Timotk...

Survived: maybe yes, maybe not... isn't that always the way

If the Kymi communion books didn't survive I'll have to try looking in Anjala.

If you're interested, here's the background...

Record 1: Daniel HENRIKSON, born 9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.

Record 2: Daniel HEIKINSSON, moves from Kymi to Anjala in 1881, then from Anjala to Strömfors in 1882

I was hoping to check the 1881 Kymi communion book to see if the two records are for the same person.

If I can't view the Kymi communion books then I'll try and find Daniel HEIKINSSON in the Anjala communion books.

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Can I ask your advice

Is there anything in the following Anjala moving in and moving out records to say where Daniel HEIKINSSON is living in Anjala.

Daniel HEIKINSSON - Anjala Moving In - 6 Nov 1881
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/ ... ko56/5.htm

Daniel HEIKINSSON - Anjala Moving Out - 18 Nov 1882
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/ ... o56/10.htm

Also, in the moving-in entry what is the word following Rysä (renbi?).

And in the moving-out entry what are the two words preceeding Daniel (ent lenke?) and the words in the "Remarks" column (1860 ofevela No4 ?)

Many thanks
Beg

[timotk]

1) Is there anything in the following Anjala moving in and moving out records to say where Daniel HEIKINSSON is living in Anjala.
2) Also, in the moving-in entry what is the word following Rysä (renbi?).
3) And in the moving-out entry what are the two words preceeding Daniel (ent lenke?) and the words in the "Remarks" column (1860 ofevela No4 ?)

1: unfortunately there is no more than the folio number (which may be exactly what you need to go further, or alternatively if it leads to the book of "tilattomat" or loose folk it may not help at all).
2: renki = farm hand
3: ent. renki = formerly farm hand (now something else but not specified)
3: it is pretty unclear but the text on the preceding row states "asevelvollinen" = to be called into military service (or perhaps has been through it), so the following line is just an abbreviation. Each man was initially given a number in lottery. Low number meant it was likely be recruited.

[jani]

Yes, the first listing is the Kymi books in the database. The other books haven't been digitized yet, but do exist. From the microfiche listing:
RIPPIKIRJAT 1 - 12 1860 - 1870
13 - 25 1871 - 1881
26 - 37 1882 - 1890
38 - 44 1882 - 1890
45 - 51 1890 - 1899
52 - 57 1890 - 1899
58 - 65 1890 - 1899

LASTENKIRJAT 177 - 183 1860 - 1872
184 - 190 1872 - 1881
191 - 197 1880 - 1890
197 b 1880 - 1890
198 - 200 1880 - 1890
201 - 207 1890 - 1899
208 - 212 1890 - 1899

[beg]

Thanks Timotk for the translations.

So "Folium i kyrkoboken - 57" may be a clue. Or not

Fingers crossed.

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And thank you Jani for the additional info. Unwittingly you've cleared one thing up. I had seen the following on FamilySearch but didn't actually realise that the Rippikirja had been scanned and saved to microfiche instead of microfilm.

I thought the following was simply an index of some kind, not actual images of the Communion Books. I wonder what the reasoning was for saving to microfiche instead of microfilm.


Rippikirja v. IAa12 1871-1881
Aspö - Family History Library - Fiche - 6363990
jatk. Aspö, Bärnäs, Eskola 1871-1881 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6363991
jatk. Eskola, Gerikkala (Kierikkala), Helilä 1871-1881 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6363992
jatk. Helilä, Huruksela 1871-1881 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6363993
jatk. Huruksela, Högfors 1871-1881 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6363994

etc...

Rippikirja v. IAa13 1882-1890
Aspö - Family History Library - Fiche - 6364003
jatk. Aspö, Bärnäs, Eskola 1882-1890 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6364004
jatk. Eskola, Gerikkala (Kierikkala), Helilä 1882-1890 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6364005
jatk. Helilä, Huruksela 1882-1890 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6364006
jatk. Huruksela, Högfors 1882-1890 - Family History Library - Fiche - 6364007

etc...


Thanks again
Beg

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One more thing Timotk

Thanks for the link to kotkanseurakunnat.fi

I'll give serious thought to asking them if they'd mind looking in their 1881 Communion Book. As we're on the other side of the world it seems to be the easiest way we'll get to see if Daniel from Rysä is the Daniel who moved to Anjala in 1881.

Do you think it will be okay if I email in English.

And is it a common Finnish practice to ask churches for genealogical help. It seems a bit wrong to me.

Regards
Beg

[timotk]

1) Do you think it will be okay if I email in English.

2) And is it a common Finnish practice to ask churches for genealogical help. It seems a bit wrong to me.

1 > Please try. They do have at least basic language skills, but maybe they are not used to responding in English.

2> You do not have an idea how things are here. Sometimes you have no option but contacting the parish office. Church bureaucrats hace decided that since they own the historical parish records they are not obliged to make them easily available, and they respond reasonable well only to inquiries arising from legal needs, such as searching for potential benefactors of deceased persons. Private inquiries are of less importance and the quality of response is most varying. I got a photocopy sheet for free by mail when I could specify the person and the timeframe well. But you can not take for granted to getting the same service. It depends very much on who receives your message. Standard cost of research work is about 35 euro/hour.

*** Note regarding films. Older materials were filmed on reels and secondary copies were later made of them on fiche cards. New filming may be a more direct procedure and the parishes often have self service desks for fiche cards only. The clerks typically have only microfiche reader equipment for reading anything younger than 100 years (which they routinely do).

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Thanks again Timotk.

Will consider a simple straightforward email. The problem is that there are so many questions that could be asked

Regards
Beg

[beg]

Hi again...

Just an update. It wasn't necessary to email kotkanseurakunnat.fi as I've been gifted a subscription to SSHY. Very handy.

I was able to search the relevant Anjala communion book and can now definitely eliminate Daniel HEIKINSSON. He was the Daniel born 9 Aug 1860 in Rysä, Kymi and was still in Finland in 1882 whereas the Daniel I'm seeking left Finland in 1877-ish.

I'm currently looking through the Kymi moving records for a sign of the correct Daniel or his father Aron. Fingers crossed.

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Can I ask a question about the following Sailor's Register database...

http://www.genealogia.fi/hakem/merimiehet/index2s.htm

Is the "Raahen merimieshuone" page empty because the Sailor's Register has yet to be scanned. If this is the case does anyone know of a way of viewing the Register without having to travel to Oulu Archives. The Daniel I'm seeking was a sailor from the mid-1870's until 1883 and he said he was from Priastad, presumably Brahestad/Raahe. There is a possibility he may have stayed at the Raahe Sailor's Home.

Thanks for any advice

Regards
Beg

[timotk]

The collection of Raahe sailors' home makes more than 9 meters of books or folders on the shelf. So there seems to be quite a large base to search.

I suspect that the names of sailors of Raahe are not in name database yet. I searched the base with inquiries using common names and got no hits.
http://www.genealogia.fi/hakem/merimiehet/index1s.htm (for members only)

Alas, it seems that volunteers' work does not cover Raahe sailors at all. A few collections are still without the "Arkistoluettelo" in web, i.e. in a digitised form. Raahe is one of them. So the only way to research is to visit Oulu.

I have studied the registers of Pori and Uusikaupunki. "Arkistoluettelo" or Master Index was not of much help for me.
It only showed which kind of possibly useful material existed. Ok, reading it I found that it is worthwhile to pay a visit.
You can check an example by clicking Pori (on the left panel).

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Thanks for the info Timo.

Bit of a nuisance to know that the records are viewable only in Oulu.

At one time or another I've visited most of the Nordic countries but not Finland. Next time I'm in the northern hemisphere I'll definitely consider visiting Oulu

Thanks again

Regards
Beg

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EDIT:
Another red herring (harhautus?) but I will leave the info here
See following post for update...

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Grandfather, "Daniel HENRICKSON" spoke only "broken English" all his life & found it difficult to communicate with his family. Sometimes his wife assumed that from Daniel's stories, that he had a [slightly older] brother Andrew and at least 3 sisters, named: Pearl, Annie and Herma.These names he passed on to his own daughters. Whether or not there were more in the family, she doesn't know."

Another story is that Daniel's brother Andrew went to California with their father Aron to study medicine. Possibly sometime in the 1880's

Andrew = Anders (later Antti),
Pearl = means Helmi which is a correct name,
Annie = Anna or Anni
Herma = Herman?? (brother, or is there another alternative; Hilma might be too different?)

Hi all...

More than likely another red herring but, just for the record, I'll add the following to the thread...

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There was an Andrew HENDRICKSON b.1857 Finland d.1941 Philipsburg, Montana, USA (so "slightly older" than Daniel b.1860)

He had several children, amongst them an Anna.

Andrew's 1941 obituary also mentions his brother Eric of Seashore, Oregon, USA.

Eric had several children, amongst them a Helma


US Census for Andrew and Erick HENDRICKSON - (SLOW DOWNLOAD)
http://tinyurl.com/qepcwon

Eric HENDRICKSON on Mundia
Married Alexandra Sofia "Sandra" GRÖNHOLM - 10 Nov 1900, Clatsop, Oregon USA
http://www.mundia.com/au/Person/46690717/6586930721

Birth of Alexandra Sofia GRÖNHOLM - 14 Feb 1873, Porvoo, Finland
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/H ... 3&pnum=249

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1941 Obituary for Andrew HENDRICKSON


PHILIPSBURG, July 3 1941

Funeral sevices for Andrew HENDRICKSON, widely-known Philipsburg resident who died Tuesday night, will be held at the family home at 2 o'clock Thursday afternoon. Burial will be in the Philipsburg cemetery.

Mr HENDRICKSON succumbed at the family residence following a short illness. He was 83 years old.

He was born in Finland Oct 20, 1857, and moved to Astoria, Oregon, in 1880. He married Anna (Johanna/Hanna) KANGAS in Astoria in 1890. She was a native of Calvin, Finland.*** In 1898 they moved to Montana, coming to Philipsburg in 1918.

***(I think this is the corresponding birth)
Johanna b.5 Dec 1863
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/ ... 388/21.htm

Mr HENDRICKSON had been associated with mining and milling interests but had been retired during the past eight years.

Mrs HENDRICKSON died last March.

The body was removed to the family home from the Wilson mortuary in Philipsburgh Wednesday.

Surviving are: Two sons, Gideon and Thomas HENDRICKSON, both of Philipsburg: three daughters, Miss Helia HENDRICKSON, Miss Eva HENDRICKSON, The Dades Oregon: a brother, Eric HENDRICKSON of Seaside, Oregon, and a sister in Astoria.

Regards
Beg

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An update on my previous post...

It looks like this is not Daniel's brother Andrew.

An obituary for Erik HENDRICKSON was in the March 13 1952 issue of The Seaside Signal (Seaside, Oregon).

It gives his date of birth as 18 May 1868 and his place of birth as Kannus, Finland.

Combine that with a) the 20 October 1857 date of birth mentioned in Andrew's obituary and b) the middle initial "G" on Andrew's headstone means Andrew and Erik are most likely from the following family...

(SSHY members only)
Folio 171 - Kannus Rippikirja - 1873-1882
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/j ... 6&pnum=167

Earlier entry on narc
Folio 187 - Kannus Rippikirja - 1859-1865
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9480429

No mention of a Daniel born in 1860. Most depressing.

Regards
Beg

[taltta]

Hi again, have you already found the name lists of Finnish immigrants at:
http://www.finlandia.edu/genealogy.html

There are quite a lot of name indices of books and membership lists. This is not limited to Michigan only. The quickest way to search might be to google the finlandia.edu -site: site:finlandia.edu +hendrickson +andrew or something similar (the year of birth would be nice to have).

BRs taltta

P.S. They also have materials on e.g. Suomi Synod (churches). Suomi Synod extended to Canada as well.
The exact content is not known to me (*book link). Not everything is online.

Edit: *book link below. The name might also be in Finnish form - Heikkinen Antti or Heikkilä Antti
http://www.worldcat.org/title/list-of-m ... c/62603357

An old list of contents of the Finnish-American Historical Archive(s) can be found here:
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3cle.htm (including Suomi Synod churches, A)
Contact address on this page: http://www.finlandia.edu/FAHAM_finding_aids.html